i mean, people didn't survive that loss. it must have been, i mean, it's hard to if you've just studied lincoln it's hard to think about that night. to have known him and to have been through that, of course, and her more than anyone else except maybe tad it's just an unbearable loss. >> i loved the way the film gives us some vivid scenes of real politics in the 19th century, you know, the vituperation, the personal attacks, the picturesque language. and i think almost everyone's favorite scene is when the radical congressman thaddeus stevens, tommy lee jones, demolishes one of his pro slavery opponents. here it is. >> how can i hold that all men are created equal when here before me stands, stinking, the moral carcass of the gentlemen from ohio, proof that some men are inferior, endowed by their maker with dim wits impermeable to reason, with cold, pallid slime in their veins instead of hot, red blood. you are more reptile than man george. so low and flat that the foot of man is incapable of crushing you. >> george pendleto